Talk:Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
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[edit] As human beings, our greatness lies...
Third quote in the unsourced section, it seems unfinished, but I could be wrong.
[edit] Page moves
this should be moved to Mohandas Gandhi, as that is the name used as the title of the Wikipedia article. - fonzy
- I agree. Move it and the redirect will handle any searches on Mahatma. But change List of people by name to match the article name. Nanobug 12:11, 26 Aug 2003 (UTC)
This move made with following edit history:
- 2003-08-26T14:26:40 Fonzy (Talk | contribs | block) (#REDIRECT Mohandas Gandhi) [rollback]
- 2003-08-19T03:23:02 62.64.213.20 (Talk | block)
- 2003-08-15T09:52:31 217.158.210.135 (Talk | block) (* "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win.")
- 2003-08-11T08:34:42 203.115.117.2 (Talk | block)
- 2003-08-08T10:37:31 Bogdangiusca (Talk | contribs | block)
But a move back was eventually made because the Wikipedia has long used the more commonly used "Mahatma" in its title. ~ Kalki 04:17, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mahatma at Midnight
Every year at the stroke of midnight on Independence Day’s eve I think about Gandhiji. Of course, because of my sincere reverence towards the architect of our Freedom but equally so because of my curiosity about the fact that what exactly was our Mahatma doing at that moment when the entire nation was busy rejoicing in its first real Freedom?
Was he alone and lonely? Was he sitting, standing, meditating, praying or simply pretending to be asleep at the dawn of history? Was he angry and ashamed of our then countrymen; feeling abandoned and betrayed by the same set of people for whom he had fought a principled battle against the British? Was he devastated at the shattering of his glorious dream of “One India”: a free India, a sovereign India, a secular India, and a secure India for all? …Was he crying?
Shouldn’t the "Father of the Nation" have been sitting in the Central Hall, listening to Nehruji’s "A Tryst with Destiny" speech on that 14th night? Shouldn’t he have been proudly witnessing the rising of the Indian tricolour up the flagpole on the Constituent Assembly's (now Parliament) rooftop the next day on 15th? Shouldn’t he have been present at the Red Fort and enjoying with great pride and peace that momentous moment of unfurling of our national flag by Pandit Nehru on 16th August?
If the answers to all the above questions are in YES, then why did we leave the Mahatma, who was magnificent in his faith and strength and courage and humility, who had kept aloft the torch of Freedom of India, the “Inventor of India’s Independence”, all alone and lonely at Haidari Mansion in Beliaghata in Calcutta on that fateful midnight of 14th August 1947 ??? …
Anju Chandel
While all others were happy to get the political power , Gandhi was very sad because of greatest human tragedy that was happening in whole of India. Thousands of people were killed like animals and millons displaced from their root. He was a true saint the 10th Avatar of Vishnu.
CMS Chauhan
[edit] Is this real or just attributed?
Once when the missionary E. Stanley Jones met with Ghandi he asked him, "Mr. Ghandi, though you quote the words of Christ often, why is that you appear to so adamantly reject becoming his follower?"
Ghandi replied, "Oh, I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ."
[edit] Another Is this real or just attributed?
"Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes."
It is attributed to him on site after site, but I see no reference to it here at all.
[edit] Gandhi on Customers
Does someone here have a source for the often-repeated quote about the customer not being an interruption to our work, but the reason for it? --196.25.3.250 11:11, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I see it in employee pamphlets all the time :P I think it is a hoax and it should be removed unless a citation is found.--67.173.142.168 02:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] bold quotes
Why are some quotes in bold? Are they supposed to be more well-known or notable? Sorry if this is a dumb question. It doesn't seem like they should be in bold, though. It seems like someone just went and bolded his or her personal favorite quotes, which isn't very NPOV. I may be just ignorant though.... -24.20.46.19 08:37, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Why, that's just what I was wondering. Apparently there's no justification for it in the official documentation and manual of style. I've filed a question about it at the Village Pump [1]. If it's not official, I'll remove all bolds. -- 62.147.86.199 10:44, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sourced vs. Unsourced?
Why do so many of the quotes under "unsourced" seem to have sources? 24.155.88.186 23:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC
I think the quote that "My life is my message" is not a sourced quote. A person with a great humility Mahatma would have never said that. Because I feel it is not his life but his attitude is the message to the whole world. [24 march 2007]
He did say it (source below, it was caught on film), and it was in the context of "be the change you want to see" - ie, that a person should live out his values, and it was in response to a question from a journalist about what his message to the world was, and his response basically indicated that anyone who wanted to understand his message, or his values, only need look at how he lived his life -- being the change that he wanted to see. see link below for source: Wellton19 04:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC) http://www.gandhiserve.org/video/mahatma/commentary13.html (scroll down to 'reel 13' description). Moving this into quotes area.
[edit] Gandhigiri
After a Famous hindi movie: "LAGE RAHO MUNNABHAI" , Many people in India are motivated to walk on foot step of Gandhi... called Gandhigiri.
- It is interesting, but it is not a quote. You may want to post it to w:Mohandas Gandhi, our syster project encyclopedia? --Aphaia 09:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Atom bomb
'If we had the atom bomb, we would have used it against the British....' do we have a source for this? I find it very hard to believe he would say this.—This unsigned comment is by 155.198.112.91 (talk • contribs) .
- Thank you for noticing us. I agree with you that it sounds weird ... For an instant remedy, you might put a {{source}}.--Aphaia 09:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Hitler is not a bad man."
Does anyone have any source for this quotation? I can't find it in the searchable digital version of the Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi. The only source seems to be an article written in 1982 by Richard Grenier, the reference itself which is uncited. I find Grenier's article unpersuasive as a scholarly source because it contains a number of bizarre allegations, e.g. that Gandhi lived in "a permanent state of semen anxiety." Grenier's version seems likely to be an poorly altered version of Gandhi's statement that "I do not consider Hitler to be as bad as he is depicted. He is showing an ability that is amazing and seems to be gaining his victories without much bloodshed." This statement of course provides a lot more context. --Chris Thompson 23:37, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
- Removed, but actually I suspect all contributions by 71.243.194.234 are "jokes"... (Disclaimer: I don't know too much about Gandhi, but, well, contribs by this IP seems a little bit suspicious...note that "atom bomb" quote is also by him/her) 85.214.63.253 00:29, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
there is a lot of gandhi-hatred out there (grenier is a good example, but also from fundamentalist hindus, muslims, and communists) and some of their propaganda has clearly infiltrated wikipedia. 69.86.157.134 04:09, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Title?
Hello,
Other Wikimedia projects called the articles about Gandhi Mohandas K. Gandhi or Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. Can this article be renamed? I would suggest Mohandas K. Gandhi, as this is what he used to sign his letters and books. Mahatma is honorary title, so I think it better not to use it in the article title. Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi is also fine, although very few people will use Karamchand to look for Gandhi. See w:Talk:Mohandas_Karamchand_Gandhi#Move_back_to_Mohandas_Gandhi Regards, Yann
- I retitled the page to match the Wikipedia title; though I myself usually refer to him as Mahatma, I also was uncomfortable with the use of the title in the page name, as I was aware he himself objected to it. ~ Kalki 14:07, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
